[00:00] I only am optimizing the important one [00:00] s [00:00] What happens if I stop the process? [00:00] well, like "all mod-5 stepsizes for coresize x" or somesuch [00:00] nothing :) [00:00] All the data is saved in index.html, yes? [00:00] it just stops the process. [00:00] all the randries with topscores will still be there [00:01] what is optimax ? [00:01] datagram: don't worry. [00:01] oh [00:01] well don't worry. [00:01] right miz? :P [00:01] ... [00:03] ... this bacon sandwhich has too much bacon [00:03] *too* **much** bacon [00:17] There's no such this as too much bacon [00:20] datagram: it was thick, fatty, and too much of it [00:33] I am using my fancy program to limit the number of things I need to optimize [00:34] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [00:36] very good. what strategy have you chosen? :) [00:42] Haha [00:42] Its a seeeeeeeecret [00:42] I am trying something new [00:42] Which is why I suck at it [00:42] : / [00:43] going experimental? [00:43] I would say that I don't have enough experience so everything I do is experimental [00:43] same for me. [00:44] But I restarted the optimizer [00:45] It only have to go through about a million possible combinations [00:46] well, that's not much, is it? [00:46] I hope you pass qualification [00:46] I hope I pass at +3rd [00:46] Or else I have to play Roy next round [00:46] That would just be sad [00:47] Since I'll be pegged last if I make it next round by the predictions stuff [00:48] it would be nice to have at least one of us newbs in round 2 :) [00:50] you could kick roy out very early in the tournament [00:50] now that would be nice! [01:01] Hahaha [01:01] Nice, but very improbably [01:01] improbable* [01:01] I'd have to get very lucky and make a perfect counter to what he makes [01:03] it doesn't have to be a "perfect" counter. [01:03] as metcalf stated before [01:03] an average stone can beat a good scanner [01:03] or something like that [01:03] I know, but I am still below average [01:04] so am I [01:06] well i don't have to worry, won't make it past quali [01:13] Hhe [01:13] Heh* [01:14] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:15] Join: brx joined #corewars [01:31] Oh dizzamn [01:31] I think my qualifier entry might actually not suck [01:35] :) [01:35] that's right, have some confidence [01:36] Well now it's scoring 40 more points against the benchmark heh [01:37] A big improvement! lol [01:37] it sure is [02:42] ok, sent [02:43] Part: michal left #corewars [03:27] MSG: [03:33] A very humanitarian friend of mine asked me [03:33] Wrong window [03:35] weird [03:35] now mizcu is gone and I can't tell him about this.. [03:35] darn [03:38] What happened [03:38] we are just thinking about something we might work on [03:38] Ah [03:39] and well I am toying with on-speed dodging [03:39] the dodgine on-speed scores much worse against the tiny clears than oatoas does [03:40] *dodging [03:41] (oatoas is the version of on-speed which made it onto tiny hill) [03:44] very weird [03:44] I had an idea that I thought was good but I think dodging is the same thing [03:45] tell me about it :) [03:45] Well dodging is like permanently attaching a bootstrap to your code right? [03:45] So that it keeps moving itself ot a new location, but not like a paper who replicates [03:45] well that's not all to it [03:46] Explain [03:46] you scan the core for bombs of your opponent and copy yourself over them [03:47] you basically assume that this is a rather unlikely spot for another bomb to land soon [03:50] can you follow? [03:51] Sorry playing a game [03:51] I understand [03:52] ah playing a game :) [03:59] Yeah, scanners are hard to write. [04:00] not something like this. it is rather intuitive [04:00] well at least if you are as naive as i am :) [04:00] something like [04:01] trap equ (dodge-15) [04:01] dodge: jmz.f #speed+5, mov {-1, djn.b -1, #5 [04:01] jmp @trap, I'm trying to write a scanner right now [04:02] for? [04:02] *shrug* [04:02] :) [04:03] scanners are fun [04:03] fun as in, initially you don't need to twiddle as much with scanners as you have to with stones. [04:07] I don't particularly like them but I want to learn how to write qscanners for custom core sizes [04:09] I'm trying to understand Digital Swarm's scanner [04:09] mainly the mul.x jmz.f line [04:11] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:12] Join: brx joined #corewars [04:15] jens has written a series of tutorials on quickscanners [04:20] I read them, but they do not cover newer types [04:20] And those versions are also too big for a smaller core [04:21] mhm [04:24] My little warrior keeps on truckin in the optimizer [04:24] I hope it will be ready before deadline : [04:25] I don't think it will go through all possible constants [04:25] :) [04:25] But it will go through ENOUGh [04:25] It's only gone through 0.01% so far, but it's going very slow [04:26] * brx has not used optimax this round [04:28] much too tedious to set up :) [04:28] and I'm a bit lazy [04:32] Heh [04:32] I had a bunch of problems trying to set it up the other day because of the custom coresize for the tournament [04:32] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:35] Join: brx joined #corewars [04:35] had it reconnect to say goodnight [04:35] need to get some sleep :) [04:35] i wish you good luck with your entry data. hope you make it [04:35] * brx waves [04:36] Good luck to you too brx [04:37] See you in the finals! Haha [04:37] thank you :) [04:37] will need it [04:37] hah [04:38] * brx checks if that is possible [04:39] only if you become third or first datagram! [04:39] so go for it :) [04:39] : ) [04:39] (same for me btw) [04:39] I told you I am shootin for 3rd [04:39] i am trying to be 4th [04:40] but well. we'll see on sunday. [04:40] anyways. off now. [04:40] gbye [04:47] http://www.corewar.info/tournament/irc34/index.htm [04:47] haha [04:47] I didn [04:47] 't really know redcode back then [04:47] if I take a look at the rules and the other peoples' entries I wonder how i could come out 5th [05:05] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:06] Join: brx joined #corewars [05:23] good night [06:10] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:11] Join: brx joined #corewars [06:25] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:32] Join: brx joined #corewars [07:15] Join: michal joined #corewars [09:26] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:28] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:29] Join: brx joined #corewars [09:45] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:45] Join: brx joined #corewars [09:58] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:58] Join: brx joined #corewars [10:44] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:44] Join: brx joined #corewars [10:54] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [11:26] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:26] Join: brx joined #corewars [12:17] Part: michal left #corewars [12:21] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:21] Join: brx joined #corewars [12:23] Join: sayembara joined #corewars [12:24] MSG: Client Quit [12:25] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:26] Join: brx joined #corewars [12:26] Join: michal joined #corewars [12:51] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:49] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [15:03] Anyone awake? [15:04] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:05] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [15:20] My warrior has been sent [15:20] GODSPEED! [15:20] That's what I said to my warrior before emailing it. [15:31] Anyways...good night [15:34] n8 [15:35] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [15:35] hi [15:35] hi Fiz [15:36] two groups are ready to run :) [15:43] C? :) [15:43] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:44] Join: brx joined #corewars [15:45] A and C [16:04] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [16:07] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:21] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [16:28] it was , correct? [16:31] bleh, shouldnt have even asked.. [16:34] there, sent [16:36] thanks :) [16:37] just 4 entries are missing [16:39] got it [16:40] gotta go, be back later [16:40] MSG: [17:19] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [17:24] I know people hate me for being the semi-legal person here.. but Civ 4 has just been released in a big warez-site [17:25] heh [17:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:36] Join: datagram joined #corewars [17:36] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [17:37] hi [17:37] hi el kauka :) [17:38] send my entrie [17:38] perfect. Just two entries missing to be complete [17:39] whos missing? [17:39] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [17:39] Hi [17:40] hi nenad [17:40] how goes, elkauka? [17:40] are you going to win in your group? [17:40] quite fine - the first time i'm at home [17:40] well i guess not [17:41] i nearly missed to send my entrie [17:41] well, is your warrior ok? [17:41] so i send in a quick hack [17:41] its somehow like irc-t to me :) [17:42] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:44] Join: datagram joined #corewars [17:54] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:01] MSG: Quit: Quit now, you'll never make it. If you disregard this advice, you'll be halfway there. [18:05] Join: datagram joined #corewars [18:18] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [18:22] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:22] Join: datagram joined #corewars [18:38] 20 minutes left.. [18:38] heh :) [18:38] hi Mizcu [18:39] Hi Nenad [18:39] still two entries missing :-/ [18:39] which ones? [18:39] from Sapan, I guess [18:41] Will Varfar and John K. Lewin [18:41] I didn't count Sapan anymore [18:41] I think I just missunderstood him [18:41] so, everyone in D that submitted will qualify ... [18:41] * Nenad is jelaous [18:42] you're lucky Mizcu [18:42] * Mizcu is zealous [18:42] But 'ya newer know [18:42] it seems that datagram might also qualify :) [18:49] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:13] * Nenad has to go [19:13] * Nenad waves [19:13] MSG: [19:13] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:14] Join: datagram joined #corewars [19:19] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [19:20] Nick Change: Fluffy changed nick to Jens [19:20] Hi :-) [19:20] I should change my default nick ... [19:20] H Jens [19:21] hi Jens :) [19:21] Anything interesting? [19:22] heh, yes. But I don't tell ;-) [19:22] Two groups are ready and already run [19:22] Let me guess ... because you already have most entries, you're finished [19:22] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:23] Join: datagram joined #corewars [19:23] I still wait for two entries to be complete (Will and John K. Lewis) [19:24] Isn't it already past the deadline? [19:24] yes, but John is from USA, maybe he didn't know the local time here [19:25] Let's officially declare that little country (named USA) to be a part of Europe ;-) [19:25] lol [19:28] well, it looks that there will be very interesting second round matches :-P [19:29] As long as I make it to Round 2 I'll be satisfied with any opponent. [19:30] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [19:30] :) [19:30] hi [19:30] any results yet? [19:30] Yes, but Fizmo doesn't want them to publish [19:30] :( [19:31] I just want to make it complete befor I tell something [19:31] And I want to head some results ;-) [19:31] *hear [19:33] ok, I can tell something, but not the results [19:33] I'm testing my little python MARS (ICWS '88 only) at the moment with the the validation program by Stefan Strack. Does anybody know, wether it has any (known) bugs or doesn't test something, it should? [19:34] Fizmo: Then tell something :) [19:34] three of the groups are soo close that I have to run them with -P to clarify the ranks [19:34] o-o [19:34] hehe ... that wasn't in the rules ;-) [19:34] Which groups? [19:35] I know, but I think it is more fair otherwise it would be pure luck [19:35] A, C and D [19:35] If I only knew, which group I'm in ... [19:36] B? ;-) [19:36] hmm ... yes, now I've found it [19:36] when do you thing will all fights be calculated? [19:36] And how big was the score difference after you've used -P in these groups? [19:37] tomorrow morning [19:37] ok, than i'm off for today [19:37] cu [19:37] * Jens waves [19:37] cu [19:38] MSG: Quit: Quit now, you'll never make it. If you disregard this advice, you'll be halfway there. [19:39] well, around 2-3 points compared to 380er runs [19:39] Anything else you can say, Fizmo? [19:40] No, I meant, the score difference between first and last in the group [19:40] and there are a pair and a triple which was around the same score [19:41] But they aren't the same warrior, are they? [19:41] has someone horribly lost (or won)? :) [19:41] no, they aren't [19:41] both [19:42] in A there is a clear loser [19:42] :/ [19:42] i know someone who recognizes him/herself as it.. [19:43] hmm, in C there is a clear loser as well, but not that significant that in A [19:44] :/ [20:04] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [20:05] hi [20:05] :) [20:06] hi Neo [20:08] Join: brx joined #corewars [20:08] :) [20:08] Fizmo, have you recived all entries? [20:09] no :-/ [20:09] Will Varfar and John K. Lewin are missing [20:09] Lewis* [20:09] hi neo [20:09] :-/ [20:09] hey others. [20:09] hrm will was here yesterday [20:09] MSG: Quit: Reconnecting [20:09] hi brx [20:09] lol [20:10] I told him not to forget his entry [20:10] now that was some spectacular lag.. [20:15] Join: Roy joined #corewars [20:15] Hi Roy! [20:15] brb [20:15] hi [20:15] hello Roy [20:16] hi Roy [20:17] are you all waiting for something? :-P [20:18] uuurrrhh... results... resultsss.... [20:18] Roy, do your eyes still hurt? [20:18] yeah, results! [20:18] Fizmo: Yes!! [20:18] no results :( [20:18] na na na naaa na, na na na na naaa na [20:18] let's do that tomorrow [20:18] then I'll have all results ready and well prepared [20:18] no, results..! now..? :) [20:18] Yes, Fizmo, tomorrow you can say "na na na naaa na, na na na na naaa na", but now we need RESULTS! [20:19] lol [20:19] Jens: calm down [20:19] please, everyone [20:19] No, why should I? [20:19] I'm calm, very calm.. [20:19] but still I demend results! [20:19] well, I am still wondering how bad all your predictions was :-P [20:19] nobody wants to know the results already! [20:19] I'm sitting in front of my computer and jumping up and down [20:20] Roy: Did you hear that. You're last ;-) [20:20] Fimzo: msg Jens and me, so the others don't know [20:20] lol [20:20] * Roy is out :( Fizmo messaged me! :| :O [20:20] :'( [20:20] Thanks, Fizmo! That is really close :) [20:21] But, that JM and Roy were so bad ... I would never have dreamt of that! [20:21] Be careful Fiz, if we don't have our results tomorrow, there will be a revolution. We would take corewar.info [20:22] Did I mention, that I would like to hear some results? [20:22] No? [20:23] Well, it will surely give a very unexpected fixtures for round 2. So take warm clothes with you and be sure to sit tighten on your chairs tomorrow :-P [20:23] Fizmo: RESULTS!! [20:23] Group A or C? [20:23] A [20:23] B [20:23] C [20:23] D [20:23] E [20:23] F [20:23] G [20:23] C please.. [20:23] AND [20:23] H [20:24] ;-) [20:24] B [20:24] B [20:24] * brx sighs [20:24] BBB [20:24] while 1 == 1: [20:24] B isn't ready [20:24] print 'B' [20:24] as well as D [20:24] so vote for A or C now: [20:24] for 1 mov 'C',screen [20:24] rof [20:25] A [20:25] Join: sascha joined #corewars [20:25] hi Sascha [20:25] Hi 2 all+ [20:25] Hi Sascha! Please say "A" to Fizmo [20:25] Hi Chris....did you get my entry...? [20:25] A2Fiz [20:25] yes :) [20:26] B [20:26] B isn't ready ;-) [20:26] hi sascha [20:26] AAAAA [20:26] brx: A? [20:26] Hi brx......Entry sent ? [20:26] ok, ok [20:26] So you want the results of A [20:26] Fizmo: C [20:26] Fizmo: don't post the results yet! :/ [20:27] * Jens pokes brx with a stick in his right eye for not saying "A" [20:27] No, at the official " Result Posting >Time..." [20:27] A A A [20:27] C! [20:27] * brx leaves the channel [20:27] Part: brx left #corewars [20:27] What is the meaning of A [20:28] The group to post results from [20:28] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [20:28] Hmm, why not C - Jens, you are at group C, right ? [20:28] B [20:28] nope [20:28] No, jens is B :) [20:28] Hi, Roy.. [20:28] I'm in C with Roy and have lost horribly :/ [20:29] No, Fizmo has already told, that Roy has lost with a score of 17 [20:29] -17 [20:29] Join: brx joined #corewars [20:29] Part: brx left #corewars [20:29] sascha: -17 = (3800-17) is too a high score [20:29] His Warrior Self Destruct more then one time in a round... [20:30] Sorry.... [20:30] Fizmo: A A A A A [20:30] Fizmo: C [20:30] err ... that was a type [20:30] Fizmo: A [20:30] Join: brx joined #corewars [20:30] heh [20:30] Hey, group A Complete Michal Nenad S.Fernandes BRX Datagramm all have send entries... [20:30] brx: A A [20:31] Jens: c c [20:31] Fizmo, when did you publish result - official, and when can we see the rules for the next round... [20:31] brx: Too late, your opinion no longer counts [20:31] sascha: he'll publish tomorrow [20:31] TODAY [20:31] Jens: what is that supposed to mean? [20:31] anyone interested in a mini irct while so many are here and we can't do anything till we know the results? [20:31] (sorry for screaming) [20:32] brx: Give some of your drugs to Jens. He needs to calm down. :) [20:32]