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[17:16:54]digital.wilderness : I should have an updated glossary ready later if anyone fancies giving it a quick look? After that I'll work on the rest of the FAQ. (I've moved the glossary to a separate doc).
[17:19:43]john.kipling.lewis : I'll look. Send me a link?
[17:21:36]digital.wilderness : Thanks. I'll finish the last couple of bits later then upload a PDF here. Tuc is away at the moment so I'll send him the HTML when he returns.
[17:35:15]john.kipling.lewis : Do you ever use Google Docs? If you put it there, we could all edit it together... (although some people don't trust Google so I understand if you don't want to.)
[17:46:27]digital.wilderness : I haven't used Google Docs before. I'm not a fan of Google for various reasons, but still use their services. I just refuse to pay the anything or click their ads.
[17:48:25]digital.wilderness : I thought I'd let people send updates to me if they want, then I can vet them for accuracy and include them. Otherwise there's a risk of wrong info or subtle errors creeping in.
[18:22:54]john.kipling.lewis : I'm happy to read as a PDF, just google docs lets you do things like "tag" a section with a comment and use "edit" mode where you can click to accept or reject the edit.
[18:24:21]digital.wilderness : Actually that doesn't sound too bad if edits can be checked.
[19:06:28]digital.wilderness : First draft of the updated glossary.Possible additions needed:
[19:21:29]digital.wilderness : Binary Launch has the incorrect heading. Fixed.
[19:43:08]digital.wilderness :
[19:44:44]digital.wilderness : Draft of the updated glossary. Possible additions needed: HSA scan, Randry, TNT Bomb and an example of a modern incendiary bomb. Also need to test the example code to ensure it all works.
[20:04:42]john.kipling.lewis : OMG THOSE BUTTONS...
[20:04:55]john.kipling.lewis : I feel like I'm 28 again.
[20:06:57]john.kipling.lewis : I'm going to comment as I read.
[20:07:51]john.kipling.lewis : For Blur, I would mention more history behind why it's included... that in was an innovation or why it was innovative. Perhaps a link to the warrior too?
[20:10:56]john.kipling.lewis : To get rid of the strange period/decimal problem in this sentend for *c* "a warrior which bombs or scans one location every two cycles is said to be 0.5c." Try "a warrior that is 0.5c is one which can bomb or scan one location every two cycles."
[20:11:45]john.kipling.lewis : *Colour* change to *Colour/Color*?
[20:12:45]john.kipling.lewis : *D-Clear* I would include the number "1" in the link "1c core-clear"
[20:13:47]john.kipling.lewis : Same for *Decoy Maker* ... I'd include the "3" in "3c" as part of the link.
[20:14:38]john.kipling.lewis : *Dwarf* potentially link to the original warrior? More history?
[20:17:28]john.kipling.lewis : *Imp-Ring* needs to explain that it requires multiple processes to work. Perhaps even show a start up?
[20:17:58]john.kipling.lewis : *Imp-Spiral* same as above.
[20:19:02]john.kipling.lewis : *Mirror* Technically because it comes first, this should have the definition and *Reflection* should point back to this.
[20:20:14]john.kipling.lewis : P-Warrior A warrior which uses p-space. You never explain p-space
[20:21:50]john.kipling.lewis : You don't have an entry for *Rock*
[20:22:33]john.kipling.lewis : Self-Repair Ability of a program to fix it's own code after attack. Self-Repair Ability of a program to fix it's own code after _being_ attack.
[20:23:51]john.kipling.lewis : Okay, I see why you don't have *Rock*, in the US we call it Rock-Paper-Scissors.
[20:24:39]john.kipling.lewis : Done! This looks GREAT!!!
[20:28:48]digital.wilderness : Excellent, thanks for the comments. I'm giving each comment a thumbs up as I update the glossary. A lot of the work was already done, I've just brought it up-to-date and fixed errors / inconsistencies.
[20:29:39]john.kipling.lewis : The only addition I can think of that might be good would be explaining the versions _ICWS-86 standard_, etc...
[20:30:28]john.kipling.lewis : Because if you come across code that doesn't run for you, like Limited Process or something, then it would be nice to have somewhere to find that easily.
[20:31:25]john.kipling.lewis : Which brings up *KOTH*, *Limited Process* and *tiny* as things you might want to include... I also forgot the name for very large cores...
[20:32:30]digital.wilderness : Experimental for large. Also nano for the 80 cell core.
[20:33:27]digital.wilderness : I think some of those are covered in the FAQ. I'll check when I start work on the FAQ.
[20:39:33]digital.wilderness : I changed *Colour* to the American spelling. No need to include the UK spelling.
[20:53:56]john.kipling.lewis : What was the term for write limit distance? I remember some experimental core had a limit that you couldn't write past.
[20:56:17]digital.wilderness : I'm not sure, I always thought it was referred to as *read/write limits*. W R Buckley used *horizon* when he mentioned write limits a few days ago.
[21:01:37]john.kipling.lewis : ....a few days ago.
[21:01:51]john.kipling.lewis : Is he still talking about this? Where? Do you talk to him?
[21:02:00]john.kipling.lewis : ***Star Struck***
[21:05:12]digital.wilderness : He's on twitter and we're friends on Facebook. When I've got in good order I'm going to ask for permission to host some of the ICWS material, e.g. TCWN scans.
[21:07:42]john.kipling.lewis : I think he's like that. Such a cool legacy.
[21:13:01]digital.wilderness : There's quite a bit of material that seems to no longer be available that I'd really like to find a copy of to put online. E.g. the CWS'86 standard document is no longer available online. The finalists from some of the ICWS Tournaments are unavailable.
[21:14:57]digital.wilderness : By the way, did I ever ask you if you still have the entries from the Intelligent Warrior Tournament and the Battle Royal? Most of them didn't get published.
[21:39:37]john.kipling.lewis : Have tried wayback machine?
[21:39:59]john.kipling.lewis : I'll look for warriors from those contests.
[21:47:48]john.kipling.lewis : I have a folder with a BUNCH of tiny warriors.
[21:47:53]john.kipling.lewis : example names:
[21:49:19]john.kipling.lewis : ```2FAST.RED FOO.RED NILENEA2.RED SNUFKIN.RED TINYLUKE.RED ADDER.RED FOOBAR.RED NILINEA1.RED SOD2.RED TINYPAP1.RED BACKSLID.RED GENERIC.RED ONE.RED SOLO.RED TINYPOKE.RED BAD.RED GENETICB.RED ONESHOT.RED SQUIRM.RED TINYPORT.RED BISHOT.RED GUNMAN.RED ONESHOTT.RED STABBING.RED TINYPVK.RED BPROOF.RED H-BOMB.RED OOS.RED STOLEN1.RED TINYSHOT.RED BRAINL1.RED HALF.RED OOSF.RED STUNNER.RED TINYSOLO.RED BRAINL2.RED HELPTINY.RED PAPERWIT.RED SUCK.RED TINYSPIR.RED BURNING.RED HEMULEN.RED PARA.RED SUM3.RED TINYTIBE.RED CENSORSH.RED HIRED.RED PERGAMEN.RED SWARM.RED TINYTIM.RED CL-SKIES.RED HOHUM.RED PHANTOM.RED SZCZUR.RED TINYTOM.RED CLEARORE.RED III.RED POINTER.RED T766.RED TINYUNIV.RED CLEAR_.RED IMPX.RED POTENZA.RED TALON.RED TINYWICK.RED CLOCK12.RED INCISOR.RED QFLUX.RED TCI.RED TITAN.RED CLOCKWRK.RED INSANE.RED QUICKD.RED THROO.RED TRITINY.RED CRAZY.RED IRC7_ETA.RED QUICKNG_.RED TIME.RED TROLL.RED CRYTON.RED IRC7_PHA.RED R1.RED TINY-P.RED TSCAN.RED CUT__CUT.RED JIT.RED R2.RED TINYAK47.RED UGLY.RED DCLEAR.RED LARD.RED RASP.RED TINYBARB.RED UNNOTIC.RED DCLRNOI2.RED LITTREVE.RED RICKET.RED TINYBI2.RED VENOM.RED DJINN.RED LITT_HOT.RED ROSTOV.RED TINYBISH.RED WANDERER.RED DK-SKIES.RED MADPIXEL.RED S774.RED TINYBLOW.RED WASP.RED DUSTING.RED MFLASH.RED SEEINGEY.RED TINYBOSS.RED WEGO.RED E-THREAT.RED MIGHTY.RED SEPT.RED TINYBRUT.RED WING66.RED EASTER.RED MISPLACE.RED SILKLIGH.RED TINYCLP.RED WINGSHOT.RED ELIGHT.RED MOOMIN.RED SIMPLE.RED TINYDAWN.RED WIPE.RED ENTRY2.RED MR__PPER.RED SNAKE.RED TINYDCLR.RED WSHOT-T.RED EUTHIN.RED MUSKET.RED SNIFF.RED TINYEVER.RED XYZZY.RED FASTER.RED MUSKRAT.RED SNOW.RED TINYFREE.RED FASTHACK.RED NIBBLE.RED SNOWST.RED TINYGOLD.RED```
[21:49:49]john.kipling.lewis : Above in the thread is a list of the names.
[22:15:05]slack1 : I'm in Vegas with limited time on a computer, so DM me things I might need to see/do so it doesn't get lost
[22:24:40]digital.wilderness : I recognise most of those tiny warrior names. Probably From the ZIP file here I made the bad choice of putting all the filenames in caps :disappointed:
[22:25:06]john.kipling.lewis : Ok, that makes sense.
[22:25:22]john.kipling.lewis : I was probably trying out a tiny warrior and loaded them for testing.
[22:25:36]john.kipling.lewis : I can't find any of those other warriors... from the contests.
[22:26:22]john.kipling.lewis : (I made sure to keep the code private, so I probably deleted it right after the contest, allowing contestants to post if they wanted to.)
[22:26:54]digital.wilderness : I wouldn't know where to look in the Wayback machine. Did you have a website back then? I think there was also the Waste Youth Core War hill but I couldn't find anything for that.
[22:30:40]slack1 : Any time, any time. :wink:
[22:32:49]digital.wilderness : <@UBPRDB1U6> I'll just send you everything in one ZIP when you return instead of lots of tiny updates :slightly_smiling_face:
[22:49:02]john.kipling.lewis : hrm... no I think these contests were before WY.
[22:49:23]john.kipling.lewis : I hosted them by running the contests by hand.
[22:50:52]john.kipling.lewis : The unix system that there were on is still around (kind of) but I don't have access to archive files so I can't recover them. Maybe rec.games.corewars would have publish some from contestants, but I always made it optional.
[22:51:06]john.kipling.lewis : (And thus I deleted the code when I was done.)